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Sounds a get day guys

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Thank you for inviting me on this unknown river and what a dream when you got going, thanks Tim for diving on my boat and rescuing it. I think I owe you a new pair of “Boots”, send the bill to me. Plus Chucky or whoever saved my paddle. See you Thursday.

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Tim seems to have left out his own New Years Honour;

Mr Conscience; the person responsible for monitoring and maintaining the “Ethics” of this great club in order to guide us with his advice and experience, thanks a lot Tim.

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Same Here Nige, hope all have a fantastic Christmas and a happy new year.

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No more footage will be uploaded by me i will keep for personal record, i haven’t named wombourne kayak club on the title on youtube . After the last trip to the dart i was told to show the swims on my footage so people don’t under estimate a river . I think it is a good thing to see so you can see what went wrong and what not to do next time round . As for a group we do pretty good on a river as a team as showed on sat , the group before us had just the same messups as we did we are never going to be perfect as it is near impossible to right yourself in every situation we learn from our mistakes and move on .

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It’s a difficult call whether to experience something that perhaps beyond your ability or not, how do you make that call or know that judgement without “Trying”. The “Pace” and the amount of “Portages” effected everyone in more ways than one, yes this was a new experience for all but as we gain more knowledge of different rivers, then we maybe more susceptible to errors. However, this practical experience “Logs” in that knowledge and appreciation of those risks and adapting to changing situations but remembering your own limitations and abilities. In many ways we have progressed whilst the last trip reminds you there are still many things to learn. Could we have dealt with situations and made the right decisions in most of the “Portages” and rescues, which we made, whilst a couple caught us out but we dealt with it as a group. When you learn there are always mistakes nothing is perfect. I hope this helps to the discussion.

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Tim’s right about reflecting on what happened, I’m guilty of some silly action; boat, losing my paddle twice, caught in a strainer. Apart from that one of the key issues I learnt was the difference in “Pace” of the water, which had an impact on the eddies and time given to make important decisions to eddy out quickly before fallen trees and holding your position. Fortunately, Chucky, Dave came to the forefront and gave valuable assistance in dealing with tricky situations. This has been a valuable experience, whilst applying some useful techniques in retrieving 2 boats. I think that all members who attend regularly have learnt from these experiences and I’m a great believer on building on your mistakes as we develop, as well as keep safe and know your own limitations.

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All I can say to that Tim is at present club trips need to be assessed on ability of group weather safety trained or not as you’ve said, adequate safety ie guys who can deal with most situations need to be there as well.All club members need to able to rescue but its a fine line from quik thinking and blasting across a river.If trips are to suit certain members then problems should become less.

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I’m out Rich, if I can fit in my boat!!

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Agree with Chucky on point 1.This hasn’t been set in stone as yet but as a club the guys are on the case for nxt spring.

Another point club boats as discussed plus maybe a small amount of kit ie: 2/3 throwlines,and maybe splits.Just for groups who may even just do jackfields etc,get them doing it on a regular basis.

I also agree the point about fees Tim.

Going back to safety,rescue courses are ok but need to be put into practice situations occasionally like the 4* we did.Its no big deal in warmer weather to have a couple of hrs say mile end every few months so people can still be familiar with it.You may need them to rescue you!!

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It is with great relief that Kee was so efficiently and effectively by Dave as I had ebbed around the tree stump after losing my paddle. I am grateful to Geoff for explaining what happened as I thought I was responsible by entering the same eddy as Kee. I couldn’t understand how it came about because he was upright prior to me ebbing down to the next eddy. I was also appreciate Dave helping me out of a tricky situation at the same time and at the end of the trip when again I got caught out by the fast flowing water when you think you are safe. As I said before not one of my “Best” days but I hope you let “Compo” out again and I try to behave myself.

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After all of daves quick thinking rescues yesterday i feel alot safer on the river with him. It was a very sticky situation kee was in ,dave was there like a shot and new just what to do hats off to dave some good knowledge you have gained along your paddling days. A good day and all home safe

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As a father myself Geoff I know that gut wrenching feeling of no control over a situation.I had my eye on kee and john already as the flow was where they were trying 2 eddy out,saw Kee and darted over.He couldn’t lift his paddle as the Flow was against the deck and every time he moved he went further over into the tree.I know u guys would do the same 4 me.I must say though line of sight is a must as a group+ quik thinking on a river that fast.Grt day lads hope kees ok now my arms ache

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The clwyd sounds good and on a good level

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Sorry, trip to Doncaster and Nottingham tomorrow.

So have a great paddle and a fantastic Christmas to all Wombles..

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